Today is my first time to play Fame League. It's a very complicated game for a raw hand. It makes me very confused. But after playing(actually random clicking) for a long time(around 4 to 5 hours), I realize that this complicated game in fact has many good ideas behind it. It combines some of the most popular and advanced elements, like Prediction market and the wisdom of crowds, althrough the technology of it sucks. I don't think it's user-friendly and its UI is good enough. Maybe that's why it's hard to learn. But I don't want to talk about the technology, because I believe technology will always be better and better after some time. I want to analyse the ideas behind the game which I believe are more important. Actually these ideas are all mentioned by the presenting team in the presentation. I just want to summarize them and add some my own thoughts.
1. prediction market. In economics, prediction markets are speculative markets created for the purpose of making predictions. Assets are created whose final cash value is tied to a particular event (e.g., will the next US president be Obama?) or parameter. The current market prices can then be interpreted as predictions of the probability of the event or the expected value of the parameter. People who buy low and sell high are reworded for improving the market prediction.
In fame League, it uses prediction market to predict fame. It's very interesting. It seems that no matter who the people are, No matter whether they are famous actor, American presidents or ordinary people, their fame can not be decided. Nobody can give an accurate prediction of people's fame. Is that mean prediction market is useless in fame? No. Fame League gives you the answer.
Fame is the state of being known and talked about by many people. So if more people know you and think you are famous, you are more famous; On the other hand, If less people know you and think you are famous, you are not famous. All the fame depends on the wisdom of Crowds(Which I will talk about later). So the people who make the choose the same as the majority, improves the market prediction; who make the choose opposite to the majority, degrades the market prediction. Prediction market works well in Fame League.
Prediction market has a lot of potential. Because in a democratic world, it's very important and useful to listen to the majority. Through the voice of the majority, people can know what makes the majority happy, and what will infuriate them. Public figures and the government can make good use of it. In the past, it's very hard to collect the opinions of a large number of people. Now according to the internet, collecting becomes much easier. And prediction market makes it more convenient. Everything has been reflected as a simple number. It's easy to operate and understand.
2. The wisdom of crowds. It means that the many are smarter than the few and collective wisdom can solve many problems which can not be solved by computing. In the Fame League, the use of the crowds wisdom is very direct -- deciding the fame of people. It's a perfect usage of crowds wisdom because the fame of people is fortunately decided by the crowds.
Here, I want to talk something else about the wisdom of crowds. Google is the company I think make the most advantages of it. Except Image Labeler and SearchWiki these two tools which are based on users' interests and voluntariness, I think the best of all is the reCaptcha service which has been bought by Google. reCaptcha is a system originally developed at Carnegie Mellon University that uses CAPTCHA to help digitize the text of books while protecting websites from bots attempting to access. Google buys it to help realize the unrecognized distorted words in book scanning. Every time, users can see two words. One is that the reCaptcha has already known the correct answer, the other one is the one that reCaptcha hasn't known. If user answers the first one correctly, they can be proved that they are not machine. Then they can answer the second one. If his answer is the same as the majority, this one will be recognized to be true.
Not only these little application, more and more problems which are thought hard have been solved and are being solved by the wisdom of crowns. For example social search and social news. This trend looks very familiar with the Cloud Computing. They all use the resources of one large platform to solve special problems.
I only want to talk about these two points. Because all the other ideas are actually included in these two or they are not as representative as these two. Especially for the wisdom of crowds, I believe it's the developing trend and key point of future. No matter how the technology is improved, it's impossible to replace the wisdom of people.
Ideas behind a game are the most important. Technology is also important, but people can improve it anyway. Sometimes users can even bear bad UI for a good concept game. If a game lacks good and fresh idea, It has no soul.
Tuesday, 2 February 2010
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high5, I'm a strong believer in Crowd Wisdom too! Judging from the trend, it already has been very much a trend of itself, think wikipedia!
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ReplyDeleteThe nature is having such a property, the more numerously abundant something is made, the steadier and more reliable it behaves.
ReplyDeleteindividual is unstable.
oh...u present FAME to class?
ReplyDeleteI don't actually believe in wisdom of the crowds(I'm just cynical), but I feel going along with the flow will only encourage social stigma and discourage independent thoughts.
ReplyDeleteI'm also very curious on what the prediction market was predicting on the results of the Copenhagen climate summit.
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I think Crowd Wisdom may prove useful in predictions. But I don't think it will work on facebook though. People usually use facebook for communication and entertainment purpose. So the application, which want to utilize Crowd Wisdom, must serve one of the above purpose! Also, the application must be straightforward and easy to use. Fame tries to utilize Crowd Wisdom but it doesn't satisfy the user need - communication and entertainment purpose. Also, as Bingyu has said it is not user friendly and very difficult to use! If someone can come out with a fun and easy to use application which can gather Crowd Wisdom, it will definitely have a huge commercial potential!
ReplyDeleteI agree that Fame is not very successful in its implementation of Prediction Market. Like you've said, I too believe that if an app is able to marry entertainment and crowd wisdom, it'll be very interesting.
ReplyDeleteIn a way, "I Know What You Ate Last Supper" is leveraging right on this. It's the community's responsible to make sure Dr.Foood is smart.
doomdg,
ReplyDeleteregarding the crowd wisdom, you've expressd bravely ur doubt, I will just follow on coz I kinda have the same feeling and fear.
if society develops an universal belief on it, that'll be honestly a deadly strike to the faith of independent thought. bt, on the other hand, do you think one day will come when ppl become stupid enough to utterly abandon the philosophy of individual thinking? very unlikely. Crowed wisdom has its potential, but it won't prevail to that extent because ppl will find its limitation down the road, this is assured.
@WangChen think Wikipedia vs Britannica Online
ReplyDeleteI love the theory of crowd wisdom.. And I love the app "I know what you ate last supper"! Super supporter here okie! haha..
ReplyDeleteIt's similar to the 20q.net game which also utilizes the theory of crowd wisdom. Actually during the brain storming session for our fb app, I introduced 20q.net to my group but it seems that no one is interested. So when I see this app, I'm stunned! And I love it.
Esp that time when dr food only remembers chicken rice! wahaha..
Anyway for fameleague, my group is presenting this, and we all think that it's a great concept executed in a wrong way. That's the point we want to bring across..
- Hong Jun
@WiRuS thanks HongJun. Although we might not bring it to Final Project, We're still developing it because we love it too. So wanna join us? We're migrating to a cheaper host soon.
ReplyDelete@Joshua: Join u as in? haha.. where are you hosting it at? Care to share? I think our MisMatch also needs somewhere to host..
ReplyDelete@WiRuS Join us in continuing to develop the "I Know What You Ate Last Supper" game. We have quite a lot of ideas not implemented yet.
ReplyDeleteAs for hosting, WyeMun has a webhost that he's bought some time ago and now it's the best opportunity to use it. SoC Zone cannot?
@Joshua: You all going to continue the app in your final project? Or change other apps?
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@WiRuS As of now we are not taking the app to the finals. But we will still support the development.
ReplyDelete@Joshua: icic.. that's cool.. new ideas in the final project then..
ReplyDeleteyou get to this app from ZC?
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